29.03.08
09:00
Имате ли представа дали се продава някъде в България v. 1.0 или 2.0? Изобщо марката внася ли я някой? :)
29.03.08
09:13
#1
Отсега ти казвам,че никой не я внася,насочи се към някой друг протеин ,няма нищо толкова специално в този,а и като му гледам цената в долари и това,което съдържа,леко и скъп
“Специален” е до толкова до колкото е момента е много популярен като продукт, основно съдържащ micellar casein. Така като гледам тук не е от най-скъпите per serving. Ти какво би препоръчал от този тип протеини? :)
30.03.08
05:20
#3
Ако искаш такъв тип комбиниран протеин,който спада към категорията sustained release и има micellar casein се спри на Syntha-6 или Matrix. Не казвам в никакъм клучай,че е лош този който си избрал,но с доставкава от USA ще ти излезе към 50 долара,сравнително не е скъп,но в крайна сметка се търси ефект,не чак толкова как действа на теория,ако можеш да си намериш на тънко Syntha-6 или ПроКомплекс на Оптимум,това са за мен лично най-уникалните протеини.
И Синтата и Мейтрикса са несъмнено много добри блендове, но мисля, че Ultra Peptide-a e с повече казеин. Rep-овете на Xtreme Formulations казват, че Peptide-a e 51/49 (micellar casein/whey isolate), за другите два не можах да намеря съотношения на използваните протеините, но все пак са от повече видове. Може някой от представителите тук да ни осветли? ;)
Иначе за цената ясно :)
30.03.08
07:37
#5
Най-важното,което се търси от един продукт е ефект/цена съотношение,да ,несъмнено Peptide е интересен продукт,но ако струва 40лв,ситуацията е такава,че няма как да е по-евтин от 60лв,да не говорим,че ако случайно някой го внася ще струва към 80. За да усетиш евентуално някаква разлика от него трябва да се изпият 5-6 кутии,а в момента протеините в САЩ са се изравнили много като качество и просто е въпрос на личен избор и финанси.
Понеже сме на темата за казеина, ето нещо което намерих преди малко във форума на bb.com:
The Ones Who Are Trying To Fool You
There are, on the other hand, numerous protein powder ingredients labels out today that include in their ingredients statements:
“Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates, “
The United States FDA has issued lengthy Federal Regulations concerning label requirements for food products. In those regulations is a requirement that each separate ingredient is to be differentiated from all of the other ingredients by a comma—the comma separation denotes one, individual ingredient. So, you now know that the company marketing a product bearing this ingredients label is claiming that “Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates” is one ingredient because it is all contained within one comma. You also know that a casein micelle doesn’t form unless all of the casein fractions are present (alpha, beta, gamma, delta, and kappa), not just the alpha and beta fractions. You also know that caseinates do not form a micelle. There is no such chemical compound as “Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates” To use such a name on an ingredients panel is illegal and misleading to the consumer (you). Caseinates have a specific identity/description as laid out in the USDA section of the Code of Federal Regulations. All companies are legally required to list caseinate as a separate, defined ingredient in their ingredients statement. The ingredient labeling above is totally illegal! Why would anyone risk breaking the law by combining caseinates with micellar alpha and beta casein in an ingredients statement? The only conclusion that can be reached is that they are really not using micellar casein ? but they want you to think that they are using micellar casein. Why go through the bother and the risk of putting their product into an illegally labeled package if they really are using micellar casein? A product with real micellar casein is so easily and clearly labeled. When you see a label ingredient declaration stating “Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates”, consider what the company selling that product is trying to do. Are they trying to mislead or confuse you to take advantage of you? If so, what else are they not being truthful about? Is their product really what they claim it is? Most sports nutrition companies do not actually formulate or manufacture the products they market. They use what are known as “co-packers” for the manufacture of their products. Since the declaration of “Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates” is so common on packages today, perhaps a co-packer out there is trying to fool their customers, the marketers, with such wording. Perhaps the marketing company isn?t aware that their product doesn’t contain real micellar casein. Does that excuse the marketing company? Is the company really that stupid that they do not know that their label declaration is illegal and that there is no such animal as “Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates”” In that case, how technically knowledgeable are they? Are they really capable of formulating a good product for you if they don?t even understand simple biochemistry?
What Can You Do About It?
It is against Federal law to knowingly mislabel a food product with the intent of defrauding or confusing the consumer. If you’re as confused as I am about how anyone can market a protein powder containing “Micellar Alpha and Beta Caseins and Caseinates”, then you would have to agree that such a label violates Federal law. Why doesn’t someone take it upon themselves to start cleaning up the sports nutrition industry and start reporting those companies with such illegal labels to the authorities? At the very least, boycott those companies who make a habit out of false and misleading labels and advertising. Why would you want to support a company that thinks you’re too stupid to catch them at their misleading practices? Such practices are bad for all of sports nutrition and especially hurt those companies who are trying to make legitimately good, efficacious products for you, the consumers. Stand up for your rights as a consumer. Pay more attention to the products you eat and question how they are labeled.
Под статията имаше изброени няколко продукта на известни фирми, които са подвеждащи според статията. Който го интересува - да я потърси във форума на bb.com ;)