03.04.04
23:32
iskam da vi pitam za taka nare4enite prohormoni po specialno DHEA i androstendion.Kajete koi e po dobar i kolko pari sa.I po vajnoto zaslujavat li si ....10x predvaritelno
04.04.04
01:39
#1
znachi priatel parvo iskam da ti preveda kakvo znaschi dhea- tova e dehidroepiandrostenedion taka che kakto si lichi i ot imeto toi e e poslab ot androstenediona ponege dokato vlezne v direktna forma minava prez niakolko fazi na razgragdane koeto e grubo kazano no ako imash gelanie drugia pat shte ti raziasnia po podrobno vaprosa ponege to e ziala statia .no vagnoto e tova koeto teb te ineteesuva a imenno che DHEA e po slab ot androstenediona .otnosno efekta shte ti kaga che za lichno ne sam go polzval no sam chel staii i da ti kaga chestno pishe dosta dobri raboti za nego kato produkt koito e silno anabolen i ne predlaga pochti nikakvi stranichni efekti.otnosno hora koito sa go polzvali moga da kaga che niakoi ne sa dovolni ot nego no vsichko si e strogo individualno taka prezenkata si ostava tvoia .az lichno moga da ti kaga cheprodukta e naistina dobar loshoto e einstveno zenata koiato e malko visoka.ako za teb parite ne sa problem izobshto ne se zamisliai.pak dori s nego mogesh da vkarash i EKDISTEN.are gelaia ti uspeh
04.04.04
11:50
#2
Както каза Предатор Деата е по-слаба от андрото, но най-добре е ако ги комбинираш двете в цикъла! Още по-добре ще е ако имаш кинти да добавиш екдистен и трибестан! Цената на деата при различните фирми варира, но да ти кажа това, което аз ползвах - 100 хапа по 50 милиграма на хап Деа - 40 кинта! Андрото го зех от приятел, щото го нямаше на пазара (имаше го ама му бяха надули цената много) 100 хапа по 50 грама 40 кинта (също като деата! Трибестана си го знаеш - 25 кинта аз 60 хапа по 250 милиграма! Екдистена 100 хапа по 5 милиграма са 85 кинта, което излиза доста скъпо щото минималната доза е по 1 хап на 10кг тегло! Екдистена в русия е 15-20 долара за същото количество (справка - Anabolics.ru)!
Само да ти кажа, че без много белтък, витамини и минерали - няма кой знае какъв резултат, щото тва високото ниво на тестостерон ти дава доста добра усвояемост на белтъчините и бързо въстановяване от тренировките!
ПП - приема на креатин с глюкоза в края на тренировката е задължителен за максимален ефект от сичката тази химия! Не, че иначе няма да има ефект, ами като ще си даваш парите поне търси да постигнеш максимума от цикъла!
Последно да ти кажа - ако знаеш английски има ени мноо яки статии по въпроса за прохормоните- забрави глупостите дет си ги чел в бг сайтовете - нищо съществено няма в тях! Ако си заинтересуван ще ги постна в тази тема - нали тя е за прохормони!
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neka i az da ti dam nqkolko suveta otnosno prohormonite T-BirD. Znachi tova che sa bezvredni ne e mnogo vqrno, prohormonite osobeno v po-golemi dozi vodqt do absolutno sushtite stranichni efekti kakto i steroidite, a i moje bi znaesh che sa v doping listite na mnogo durjavi. Osven vsichko ne prenebregvai i fakta che malko ili mnogo tovarqt i cherniq drob. A inache kolkoto do tova DHEA ili Androstenedione e po-dobur veche poluchi otgovor. DHEA e na dva etapa ot preobrazuvaneto mu v testosteron, dokato androstenedione samo na edin. Naistina e mnogo dobre da se priemat zaedno s Tribulus Terrestris, a kolkoto do produktite az bih ti preporuchal Universal, imat Andro Tech 100 koeto e chist Androstenedione i Andro Stack koeto e DHEA, androstenedione i tribulus. Purvoto e okolo 45-50lv a vtoroto dvoino po-skupo. Za sujalenie chuvam che Universal spirat proizvodstvoto na tezi produkti, no dori i da e taka vse oshte mislq mojesh da namerish po magazinite. No vse pak ako si se orientiral natam purvo poprocheti nqkoi neshta i za drugite prohormoni zashtoto tova si e dosta obsihrna materiq i edin suvet, ne vqrvai mnogo na informaciqta ot saitovete, koito se opitvat da ti prodadat nqkoi ot tezi produkti, zashtoto tam opredelno ti spestqvat nqkoi neshta…
Стори ми се удачно да постна една интересна статия по въпроса за прохормоните :
Introduction to Prohormones
By David Tolson
Prohormones are substances that are enzymatically converted to anabolic hormones in the body. They are differentiated from anabolic steroids in that enzyme conversion is a rate limiting factor in how strong of a response they illicit. In terms of effect, the results of prohormones are similar to those of steroids – increased muscle mass and strength. Depending on which substance is used, prohormones also have the capability to decrease body fat, increase sex drive, and increase concentration, among many other things. This article will discuss how to use prohormones and briefly review how they work. Future articles will focus on the specifics of certain prohormones.
It is important to emphasize that prohormones are not completely safe or free of side effects, and the decision to use prohormones should not be taken lightly and should be followed by caution and adequate research. This may help reduce or prevent some of the more common side effects such as gynocomastia (bitch tits), prostate enlargement, hair loss, acne, and lethargy and also reduce the chance of serious side effects. However, one should not expect any amount of prohormone use to be side effect free.
Target hormones
Once ingested, prohormones are converted to their active counterparts via either 17-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (17HSD) or 3-beta-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase (3HSD). These are some of the anabolic hormones that prohormones convert to:
Testosterone: Testosterone is the most well known anabolic hormone. It is very effective but also associated with many side effects, primarily because it converts to both DHT and estradiol. With the increased estrogen comes a risk of gynocomastia, female pattern fat distribution, and increased adipose (fat) mass. Despite the fact that high estrogen levels are not aesthetically pleasing, estrogen can have some anabolic benefits as well (such as increased water retention). Androstenedione and 4-androstenediol (4AD) both convert to testosterone. 4AD is generally considered to be far superior because it has a significantly higher conversion rate and does not directly convert to estrone and DHT as androstenedione does.
Dihydrotestosterone (DHT): DHT is considered to be a highly androgenic compound, meaning it is associated with the development of secondary sex characteristics. It is not found in high quantities in skeletal muscle but is found in the prostate, skin, sex organs, and brain. High levels of DHT are implicated in acne, hair loss, and prostate enlargement. However, DHT may have a lot to do with the positive effects testosterone has on the central nervous system (such as increased concentration during exercise) and sex drive, and it also protects against excessive estrogen. Users of DHT prohormones commonly report increased muscle hardness. 3 alpha androstenediol (3 alpha), 3 beta androstenediol (3 beta), and 5 alpha androstenediol (5AA) all convert to DHT. 3 alpha is generally the prohormone of choice because 5AA is an estrogen agonist and the conversion rate of 3 alpha is significantly higher than that of 3-beta (although, when price is figured in they come out about even).
Nandrolone: Nandrolone is generally considered to be the safest and most side effect free steroid. It does not convert to DHT, which makes prostate enlargement, acne, and hair loss all much less likely, but it does have some estrogenic side effects. The primary side effect noted with nandrolone is a temporary loss of libido. 19-norandrostenedione and 19-nor-4-androstenediol (norandrodiol) both convert to nandrolone, and norandrodiol is considered to be the better of the two because it is more potent and does not directly convert to estrogen.
Boldenone: Boldenone is reputed as an effective steroid for “lean mass gains.” It has some conversion to both estrogen and DHT, but less so than testosterone. It is also known to be an appetite stimulant. The prohormone 1,4-androstadiene-3,17-dione (1,4 andro) converts to boldenone.
1-testosterone: 1-testosterone (1-test) is considered by many to be top of the line for strength and size gains. It is often quoted as being over 700% more anabolic than testosterone and does not convert to estrogen at all. Users of 1-test report immediate and significant increases in strength and size, improved recovery, and decreased body fat. The downside to 1-test is that it is also highly androgenic, making acne and hair loss more likely. 1-androstene-3beta, 17beta-diol (1AD) is an effective 1-testosterone precursor, and 1-testosterone itself is also available.
Cycling and recovery
Administering an exogenous hormone or hormone precursor can lead to a variety of negative feedback mechanisms in the body. The most well known is inhibition of the hypothalamic/pituitary/testicular axis (HPTA). Essentially, when the body is receiving hormones from another source it shuts down natural production. This is the reason for some of the more common side effects from prohormone and steroid use such as testicular shrinkage. For this reason, it is essentialy to “cycle” prohormones (only use them for a specific period of time) and then follow it with a recovery period to allow natural hormone production to return to normal. A prohormone cycle is usually 2-8 weeks depending on substance, dosage and goals, and it is followed by a recovery period of equal or greater length. During this period calories are often increased and intensity or duration of training decreased to facilitate recovery.
After most cycles, certain substances are used to accelerate recovery of natural testosterone production. The most common tools used are anti-estrogens. These serve the dual purpose of decreasing estrogen levels that are commonly elevated after a cycle and signalling the body to produce more testosterone. The most commonly used are the over the counter drugs 6-OXO and formestane and the prescription drugs Clomid and Nolvadex.
Stacking and delivery methods
Most prohormones are found in different forms and can be used with mutiple delivery methods. The most commonly used methods are oral, transdermal, and sublingual. Cyclodextrins are commonly used to enhance sublingual delivery while cypionate esters are used for advanced delivery methods. Oral delivery is the easiest but is usually associated with the lowest bioavailability and a higher possibility of liver toxicity. Also, oral use necessitates dosing 3-4 times daily as it only keeps blood levels elevated for a few hours. Sublingual delivery is a more effective route, but for those seeking maximum effectiveness transdermal delivery is usually the way to go. It allows for sustained 12 hour release of a prohormone with high bioavailability. Application areas should be clean, preferably shaved, and rotated daily to avoid irritation. In theory, some prohormones may also be injected, but there is little literature on this and it should not be attempted without medical supervision.
Using more than one prohormone at a time is commonly referred to as stacking. This can have numerous advantages, as many prohormones complement each other well. Most stacks include 4AD for numerous reasons such as avoiding decreased libido, with 19-nordiol and 4AD and 1-test or 1AD and 4AD being common stacks. In some stacks, an anti-estrogen such as formestane is also included.
Side effects and prevention
Gynocomastia: Gyno (bitch tits) is one of the most feared side effects resultant of androgen use. It is due to excessive levels of estrogen and can be exacerbated by excessive body fat and genetic factors. If gyno is a serious concern it is best not to take prohormones that aromatize or are estrogen agonists, making the best choices 1-testosterone or DHT precursors, with 1,4 andro also being on the safer side. One should also always keep a prescription anti-estrogen such as Nolvadex on hand and begin taking it at the first signs of gyno development, such as large or itchy nipples. If you notice these symptoms in the first few weeks of a cycle it is also prudent to discontinue the cycle immediately.
Acne: In most cases this is just something you are going to have to live with if you decide to use prohormones or steroids, although some individuals are much more susceptible than others. There are a variety of OTC topical medications available and also prescription medications available from a dermatologist. There is a study that indicates that guggul may be of use in reducing acne. It should be noted (as this is a common question) that if you are prescripted Accutane (isotretinoin), do NOT use prohormones at the same time.
Hair loss and prostate enlargement: The primary cause of hair loss as well as prostate enlargement resultant of prohormone use is increased quantities of DHT in the scalp and prostate respectively. Obviously, this makes DHT precursors an unwise decision if hair loss or prostate enlargement is a significant concern. Most prohormones with the possible exception of 19Nor have the ability to significantly increase DHT, and in this case 1,4 andro is again on the safer side. There are a variety of topical medications available for hair loss, although most nonprescription treatments won’t do the trick. Effective topical medications include minoxidil, azeleic acid, Folligen, Nizoral, retinoic acid, and spironolactone. For androgen-mediated hair loss azeleic acid and spironolactone may be particularly effective. Finasteride (Propecia, Proscar) prevents the conversion of testosterone to DHT and may also aid in the prevention of hair loss and prostate enlargement, but may negate some of the systemic benefits that DHT has to offer. Saw palmetto extract also prevents DHT conversion and may decrease the risk of prostate enlargement.
Psychological effects: Depression, fatigue, and insomnia can all become problems on a prohormone cycle. The use of a
prescription depression medication for the sole purpose of combating depression caused by prohormone use is not recommended. Insomnia can be decreased with various OTC medications such as melatonin. If depression or fatigue from prohormone use becomes serious or intolerable, it is best to try a different substance or discontinue use. One may also choose to fight it with various supplements (common choices are St. Johns Wort and 5-HTP).
Liver/kidney problems: The issue of the degree of liver and kidney toxicity caused by prohormone use is debatable, with liver toxicity being of greater concern. Mitochondrial nutrients and antioxidants such as acetyl-l-carnitine, ALA, coenzyme Q10, and green tea should help immensely in this area, and milk thistle may also be of some benefit. One should also maintain as healthy of eating habits as possible while on a prohormone cycle.
Legal status
Prohormones are currently legal to purchase and use in the United States. However, this may not be the case for long. Legislation to place hormone precursors on DEA Schedule III has recently been proposed which may ultimately threaten the ability to purchase a wide variety of supplements. For more information on how to prevent this from happening, visit http://www.usfa.biz/.
Няма да е лошо админите да я преведат и редактират, ако се налага, и да я добавят към статиите за прохормони на сайта! Ще постна и още една ако има интерес - тя ще е по-обемна и засяга доста въпроси относно прохормоните!
05.04.04
14:40
#6
Ae hora kejete neshto za sterol complexa na universal…Dobar li e i verno li moat se ka4at 5kila ot 1kutia(90 hapa) s dobre hranene i qko proteini…Ae vuobshte kajete dobrite i loshite mu strani ...ai
Otnosno statiqta na Pc_genius, az sum gotov ako kajete da q preveda i da q predostavq na koito trqbva, samo mi kajete.
Inache T-BiRD, za Universal Sterol Complex, az lichno smqtam che tova e strahotna dobavka, koqto mnogo moje da butne trenirashtiq, osobeno s dobra dieta i v kombinaciq s drugi dobavki. Sega, ne moga da ti kaja dali shte kachish 5 kila ot nego, no shte ti e ot polza. Imashe tema za sterol complex taka che ako iskash q potursi, tam imashe interesni neshta pisani sushto.